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http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-best-tv-series-of-the-00s,35256

So, this list made me mad. I found it incredibly narrow in focus and really Ameri-centric (not that a list of my own making wouldn't suffer the same problems). I'm going to run a poll and hopefully come up with a top 10 or 30 shows of the 2000s. Comment with your nominations, including any shows mentioned in the poll. Any genres are acceptable, as long as they ran for at least a technical season during the 2000s (being canceled during said season still leaves them eligible). Number of nominations will not effect the first round of voting.

Nominations will run until November 21.

Making this public so it has the chance of being unbiased, therefore I ask you NOT to pimp it to any fandom communities. However, please do link it to friends with varying tastes.
Date: 2009-11-16 09:19 am (UTC)

Primary nominations

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Big Love (2006-current)
Parks & Recreation (2008-current)
30 Rock (2006-current)
Clone High (2002)
The Inside (2005)
Pushing Daisies (2007-2009)
Wonder Showzen (2005-2006)
The Middleman (2008)
Skins (2007-current)
Alias (2001-2005)
The Office US (2005-current)
Carnivale (2003-2004)
Rome (2005-2007)
Dead Like Me (2003-2004)
Wonderfalls (2004)
Date: 2009-11-16 09:29 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] prunesquallormd.livejournal.com
Buffy and the West Wing all the way down at 26 and 30?
Just wrong Grrr.

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.

Shall ponder this and actually try and add something useful later :)
Date: 2009-11-17 03:23 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Yeah, I had a lot of issues with the list, to be sure.
Date: 2009-11-16 09:36 am (UTC)

ten off the top of my head

From: [identity profile] jvgh.livejournal.com
... and in no particular order:

Pushing Daisies
Wonderfalls
Skins
Life
In Treatment
30 Rock
The Unusuals
Lost
24
Life on Mars (UK)
Date: 2009-11-16 10:09 am (UTC)

Re: ten off the top of my head

From: [identity profile] cyandragonfly.livejournal.com
I was just about to say Life on Mars.

The Inside
Life on Mars (UK)
Life
Veronica Mars
Wonderfalls
Pushing Daisies
Dollhouse (I know you hate the hype about Joss Whedon and this thing raised enough questions to give me a headache, I still can't help but love it)
Skins
Castle
Mighty Boosh

And if anyone in the world knew Australian shows:
Good News Week and RoCKwiZ

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Date: 2009-11-16 01:00 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Wow, the first 2 pages of that were mostly designed to tell me what shows I don't want to watch, and actually made me lose interest in a couple shows.
Date: 2009-11-17 03:26 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Any shows in particular you lost interest in? But I agree that especially the first two pages were painfully male-centric.

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Date: 2009-11-16 03:00 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] gamies.livejournal.com
LOST
Battlestar Galactica
Arrested Development
Six Feet Under
Date: 2009-11-16 03:39 pm (UTC)

thepastperfect: (veronica mars)
From: [personal profile] thepastperfect
I wouldn't say that I find the list so surprising or biased, although I've never seen most of those shows, so I couldn't tell you if they were good or not. Most of them were frequently things I'd heard of and things that apparently got good ratings/reviews, but I've never actually watched. I will say that of the two I've actually watched (30 Rock and Veronica Mars), I was surprised at some of their "best episode" picks. Well, mostly for VM, not 30 Rock. I guess my favourite episodes often tend not to be the best ones.

(I have no helpful nominations, aside from those two. I tried to think about it, but concluded that I mostly watch TV that started out good and subsequently got much worse.)
Date: 2009-11-17 03:27 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Hmm good point. So maybe the list reflects critical darlings and not what people actually watch?
Date: 2009-11-16 04:44 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] annchan.livejournal.com
Gonna say, as a person who didn't watch a whole lot of television until 2005, I actually agree with most of the shows sited on the list. Sure, I'm not one to watch The Sopranos or Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but I did feel that a lot of it was pretty accurate, based on what I heard people talking about around me. Saying that, here are the shows -I- watch(ed) and loved tremendously:

**How I Met Your Mother** (all-time favorite since episode 1)
Arrested Development
LOST
Firefly
Futurama
CSI: Las Vegas
The Office (US)
Scrubs
Eureka
Breaking Bad
Flight of the Conchords
Glee

I've seen bits of 30-Rock and loved them, just not enough to really warrant being on my list of top shows.
Date: 2009-11-16 05:07 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] supergoodtimes.livejournal.com
I'll give it a go:
Arrested Development
The Office (UK)
Extras
Summer Heights High
Parks & Recreation
Skins
The IT Crowd
The Mighty Boosh
Dexter
Shameless
Dr Who (Has been around forever but was only revived around '04).
Date: 2009-11-17 03:28 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Can't believe I forgot SHH! Possibly my favorite comedy ever.
Date: 2009-11-16 07:11 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
Mostly I would say that list is sucking HBOs cock.

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Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Firefly
Dexter
The Wire
Rome
Arrested Development
30 Rock

Date: 2009-11-16 08:44 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] blurubberband55.livejournal.com
I'm trying to be objective here, as I think "best of" lists are WAY different than "favorite" lists. In terms of acting, writing, directing, and production values, these are my 10 best of the '00s. (I say this never having seen Deadwood, Six Feet Under, The Sopranos, The Wire, or The West Wing.)

Friday Night Lights
Battlestar Galactica
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Veronica Mars
Rome
30 Rock
Arrested Development
Mad Men
Carnivale
Pushing Daisies

Date: 2009-11-17 05:53 am (UTC)

going with the ones i think won't be mentioned

From: [identity profile] one6two6.livejournal.com
Joan of Arcadia
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Reaper
The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack
True Blood
Hung
Weeds
Grey's Anatomy
Date: 2009-11-17 06:05 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] poisonarrows.livejournal.com
Like others, I'm trying to be objective:
Arrested Development
Criminal Minds

And two fabulous Canadian shows:
Being Erica
Trailer Park Boys
Date: 2009-11-17 03:39 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Two--VERY FABULOUS--Canadian shows.
Date: 2009-11-17 03:23 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] oui-mu-sissu.livejournal.com
Lost
Skins
The Big Bang Theory
Criminal Minds

I can't really think of anything right now, haha.
Date: 2009-11-17 03:29 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] bridget-x-alena.livejournal.com
I am surprised (GLAD, but surprised) that The Big Bang Theory was already mentioned, cause I was going to say that. :D

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Date: 2009-11-17 03:24 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] ditchwitchbitch.livejournal.com
Veronica Mars
Arrested Development
LOST
Date: 2009-11-17 04:01 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] hankmoodyblues.livejournal.com
Here via [livejournal.com profile] thesovereignty and would like to put forth the following:

The X-Files (1993-2002)
Californication (2007-current)
Afterlife (UK) (2005-2006)
House M.D. (2004-current)
CSI (2000-current)
24 (2001-current)
The Office (UK) (2001-2003)
Phoenix Nights (UK) (2001-2002)
Date: 2009-11-17 04:09 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Completely forgot that X-Files went into the 00s.

And I've been meaning to watch Afterlife, apparently its good :D

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Date: 2009-11-17 05:06 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] dallowayward.livejournal.com
As a giant TV nerd, here's what I genuinely think are the best of the decade (only 2 HBO shows!); they might not be terribly original choices, but there were only so many truly great shows:

The Wire
Arrested Development
Deadwood
Battlestar Galactica
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Lost
Mad Men
Life on Mars (UK)
Veronica Mars
30 Rock
The Office (UK)
Friday Night Lights
Daria
Dexter
Everwood

And, though perhaps not the best, 4 of my favorites are:
Spaced
Black Books
The Middleman
Doctor Who
Date: 2009-11-17 05:57 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] firstillusion.livejournal.com
I agree with [livejournal.com profile] blurubberband55: I think there's a big difference between 'favourites' and 'best'. I loved watching Gossip Girl in the first season, because it's just so pretty but when we talk quality, it shouldn't really make a top ten list.

Qualitatively, I think The West Wing should be very high up on this kind of list.

However, I think that when it comes down to voting on the internet, The West Wing won't stand a chance against some other shows that are, with all due respect, nowhere near as good as The West Wing, basically because it's ended, fandom isn't as big as Whedonverse and there rest of the voters is too young or not interested in politics.

Yes, I think The West Wing is sadly overlooked in many lists. *sulks*
Date: 2009-11-17 11:50 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Just in terms of how often shows have been mentioned in the nominating process, The West Wing has come up far more often than any Whedon show, so... you may have hope for the human race.

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Date: 2009-11-17 07:14 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] lovely-noise.livejournal.com
Obviously I think most of the shows I watch are actually awesome, but here are the ones featuring most concentrated awesome:

West Wing - manages to be so detailed and cerebral and still completely addictively easy watching

Black Books - personal No. 1

Life On Mars - just love the concept and storylines. Almost nothing made me cringe, which is something that ruins a surprisingly large number of shows for me.

Skins - not so sure about this. I think S3 is made and executed brilliantly so it's not just my flailing that makes me love it, but I'm still to be convinced by S1 and 2

Sugar Rush - basically all the bits I love about Skins but better and more believable, IMO.

FireFly - sci-fi that forgets it's sci-fi and instead becomes some sort of modern twisted Western? Yes please ...

Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip - I found this much more engaging than 30 Rock, which was a nice comedic treat but nothing I'd think was any better than something like Scrubs. Sunset Strip was really great though, and getting to see Matthem Perry in a proper role and being awesome in it was a lovely bonus.

That list definately makes mewant to watch Breaking Bad and Veronica Mars now though. Gotta say that Flight Of The Conchords really wasn't that good to me, just mildly funny. The songs were by far and away the best part, and worked just as well out of context.
Date: 2009-11-17 11:49 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
I may have to check out Studio 60, after all it does have the lovely Sarah Polley, if I have my names right.
Date: 2009-11-17 10:26 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] shutterbug-12.livejournal.com
I know it's already been mentioned in the comments, but I'm adding the support for The West Wing. In my opinion, it's probably one of the best television shows ever produced.
Date: 2009-11-17 11:45 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] prunesquallormd.livejournal.com
So, in no particular order:-

As If (UK) - forerunner of Skins in many ways (teen ensemble piece, with variable viewpoints). Sort of obscure and never released on DVD (Grrr).

The West Wing - everything I know about US politics I know from this show. Utterly, utterly wonderful.

Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip - Aaron Sorkin can do no wrong, all I'm saying.

Skins - I'm so emotionally invested in this show it's not even funny.

Battle Star Galactica - best sci-fi ever mande? Y/Y

Farscape - more science-fantasy than sci-fi maybe, but still a glory to behold.

Life on Mars (UK) - John Sim = ♥ and Gene Hunt is just glorious.

Spaced (UK) - geek heaven. 14 episodes of comedy gold.

Buffy - my first true love. I have never, and probably will never, loved a show as hard as I love this.

Firefly - cut off before its time. A masterpiece.

Dr Who - needs no comment.

Sugar Rush - funny, poignant and totally wonderful.

(The X Files stopped being worth watching long before 2000, but the early seasons were pure brilliance).

There's probably more, but these are all that spring to mind right now :)
Date: 2009-11-17 11:46 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Oh man, As If needs to be avalable so that I can watch it.

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Date: 2009-11-19 01:09 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] krystle-ab.livejournal.com
Adding my support for the west wing

Also adding

Alias
ER
Friday Night Lights
Gilmore Girls
House
Lost
Mad Men
NCIS
Six Feet Under
Spooks (called MI5 in the US?)
Scrubs


*Freaks and Geeks & Early Edition (not sure if these count as they ended in 2000)

Do mini-series count? If so, Band of Brothers
Date: 2009-11-19 03:51 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Oh man, Thanks for the Alias love! Also, F&G and Early Edition totally count. Cause they are awesome!!

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